“We Play on the Offensive”: An Interview with Revolut Founder Nikolay Storonsky (Category Leadership)
I watched an interesting interview with Nikolay Storonsky, founder of Revolut, then valued at $75 billion, conducted by Elizaveta Osetinskaya, designated a foreign agent in Russia. He describes building a company staffed entirely by top talent. First, the company’s scale at the time—I have written about Revolut before:
- 12,000 employees: 5,000 in the core team and 7,000 in support and sales.
- 1,200 developers; engineering, product, and data science together account for roughly 30–40% of the team.
- 45M users, with 15M daily active.
- $6B revenue and $2B profit; the 2025 plan was $9B/$3B.
- Operations in 40 countries, expanding into 60+ markets.
The company focuses on high achievers. Storonsky has conducted many thousands of interviews and describes these criteria:
- Top 1–5% throughout: from school to previous jobs.
- A STEM background with a proven track record.
- End-to-end problem-solving: bring solutions rather than problems.
- Ambitious goals: I liked his line that “almost anything that obeys the laws of physics can be achieved.”
- Willingness to dismiss weak performers: something most people fear doing.
He specifically says they do not hire:
- Traditional bankers: in his words, “low-quality talent; maintainers, not builders.”
- Average performers: “As soon as you start working with average people, they come and say, ‘We have problems; what should we do?’ We don’t like that.”
His approach to turnover is interesting: keep regrettable attrition low, at 1.5% per quarter, but push forced attrition to 10–20% annually to part with weak performers. He argues that this works because:
- Continual selection creates opportunities for new talent.
- Early employees leave as multimillionaires; senior managers made $50–80M through secondary share sales.
- Compensation exceeds banks’: salary, bonuses, and shares for all 5K core-team members.
He lists these company values: 1. Never Settle: set ambitious goals and achieve them. 2. Think Deep: rigorous analysis, logic, zero bullshit. 3. Dream Team: small teams of stars. 4. Get Things Done: ownership without micromanagement. 5. Deliver Wow: perfectionism for lasting quality.
AI and automation also receive considerable attention. I have already discussed Revolut’s approach to automating development. This interview focuses on risk management and compliance:
- LLMs process 400,000+ pages of regulations, extracting obligations and linking them to controls automatically.
- ML models use 200+ parameters, including IP addresses, transactions, and connections, with claimed accuracy above human analysts.
- 75% of customer support is automated through chatbots and voice assistants.
His management approach for this team of high achievers:
1. A flat structure
- Even the CEO has no private office and works in an open-plan space.
- He has 40+ direct reports plus 30 “bright young people”—former McKinsey staff, investment bankers, and founders—in the office of the CEO to conduct behind-the-scenes performance audits.
2. Everything is KPI-driven
- Weekly 15-minute 1:1s covering Jira, metrics, and problems.
- Department reviews on Monday and Tuesday.
- Net performance of 70%+, with attrition below 1.5% per quarter for strong performers.
3. Radical Honesty This resembles Radical Candor, the book I discussed before:
- No politics, just data.
- Direct, unemotional feedback.
- Anyone can approach anyone.
4. A product approach
- Teams of 8–10 people, bootstrapping for 9–18 months.
- Discontinue products whose gross profit is below 25%.
- Interviewers can be trained: their precision and recall are tracked, and the worst 25% are removed.
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